The Prada and Giorgio Armani phones are one thing, but this.... well this is quite another. Japanese mobile company Softbank Mobile is teaming up with Tiffany & Co to create a nearly $100,000 cell phone (exact price tag is 10 million yen or $94,000 USD). This luxury mobile phone is adorned in 400 diamonds for a total of 20 carats. Ask any girl you know - if there is anyone that knows diamonds, it's Tiffany's!
Well at least it's pretty. SIKE! My eyes, my eyes! That thing is OOOOGALAY!
As if the rich folks really need another gadget to tote around and leave the rest of us bitter about. This is truly insane!
Anticipated launch date between Feb and March of this year. I wonder if it'll come in the little blue box?
via TechieDiva

Comments (65)
Hm.
Even at $94,000, its still worthless.
Posted by Adam | January 31, 2008 9:58 PM
Posted on January 31, 2008 21:58
kek!?
Posted by har har | January 31, 2008 10:12 PM
Posted on January 31, 2008 22:12
What a waste of material. sad part is somebody out there will actually buy the stupid thing...What a waste
Posted by Shawn | February 1, 2008 1:01 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 01:01
What a load of Shit
Posted by Kareem | February 1, 2008 2:13 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 02:13
What really is the point of something like this? So that arrogant spoilt celebrity teens etc have another thing to go ask daddy for? Or another thing they think is "hot" just because its expensive. $94,000 could fund cancer research for a month if not more or could give thousands of underprivileged people a hope by providing them with the adequate medical care or food/water. These money hungry fools should take a good hard look at themselves and see theres more to life than to be wealthy.
Posted by J.D. | February 1, 2008 6:38 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 06:38
The biggest issue I can think of with this phone is the transient nature of phone technology vs the timelessness associated with diamonds. The very fact that somebody might manufacture a phone that will be out of date in a year's time and cover it with diamonds scream of tastelessness to my sensibilities. Somebody with real class would never think of buying something THAT wasteful. It's boorish. I mean... What are you going to do in a couple of years' time when the hardware is out of date? Keep it on the mantelpiece for a conversation starter? You'd just feel stupid.
Posted by ArnHay | February 1, 2008 6:43 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 06:43
i have seen a stunning collection of luxury mobile phones at http://www.obsessioncollection.com
Posted by luxury mobile phones | February 1, 2008 6:50 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 06:50
100% Ugly. Unfortunately taste has all but vanished in the 21st century.
Posted by Mladen | February 1, 2008 8:19 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 08:19
Look at the bright side, when they drop the phone and the diamonds fly everyone gets a chance to get rich.
Posted by BRIAN | February 1, 2008 8:28 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 08:28
Yikes !
At this price It better be able to teleport my a** to work every morning !
Posted by Pat | February 1, 2008 8:35 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 08:35
I wonder how many starving children 100,000 could feed... Selfish, greedy people...
Posted by Jake S. | February 1, 2008 9:28 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 09:28
Here's hoping I find THIS cell phone left behind at a table by someone, instead of yet another RAZR. I can just imagine the reward for returning it. =D
Posted by Brad | February 1, 2008 10:59 AM
Posted on February 1, 2008 10:59
Does it come with a personal body guard?
Posted by DSB | February 1, 2008 12:45 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 12:45
In regards to JD's comments, it is good to see that communism is alive and well. If someone chooses to spend their money on a 94K cell phone, then that is free market capitalism at work. Japan and the US are free market capitalistic societies. Get over the fact that you don't have 94K for a cell phone and deal.
As for most of the other comments, I too think it is absurd, but don't care what phone is up to someone else's ear. Can you call out on it? Does it take calls? Good. It is a cell phone.
Some people aren't happy unless they are complaining. This is AMERICA. You have the right to spend your hard earned (inherited) money just about any way you want to. You also have the right to free speech.
Posted by Daveo | February 1, 2008 12:48 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 12:48
Daveo,
if being conscious is equivalent to be communist, maybe we ought to give communisn a try. This 'bling, bling' is about the same as eating gold, the epitome of greed and unconsiousness, selfishness. Oh yeah another point, the interweb, is much more than America.
Will
Posted by Will | February 1, 2008 1:30 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 13:30
Way to go Daveo, helping others is communist. Wasting resources and looking like an idiot, now that's something to be proud of. AMERICA indeed.
Posted by gm0n3y | February 1, 2008 1:46 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 13:46
My brothers and sisters, it's time to rise up and crush those who would partake in such opulence when half the world's population earns less than $300 a year!
It's time to start dragging rich people out of their gated communities and bashing their skulls with the bricks they've used to build those gates!
Posted by Jonathan | February 1, 2008 1:56 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 13:56
Ha, I am not rich and even if I was rich I wouldn't waste my money on something so trivial.... There are better things to spend your money on.... take care of your self, family and those who need it... of course I would have a nice home and junk like that but a phone for 94K.... you would have to be the dumbest person in the world.... w.e I can't believe I am wasting my time venting on this because its so pathetic.
Posted by Brendan | February 1, 2008 2:06 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:06
Yup. Daveo is an antiquated relic still going over the cold war in his mind.
The fact that JD is expressing his opinion is free speech, just like you are Daveo (even if your opinion is very closed-minded). But I agree with JD and the others who realized that the money that would be wasted could be put to better use... hell, even that 100 grand electric sports car would be a better way to spend it.
Posted by Miltox | February 1, 2008 2:10 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:10
I'm sure it's just bursting with features, with an intuitive operating system.
Posted by Nick | February 1, 2008 2:15 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:15
Not daddy's little girl, this item will end up in some hip-hop performers pocket.
Posted by John | February 1, 2008 2:20 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:20
While completely and utterly useless $94000 piece of equipment, if people want to spend their money on it, so be it. At least you could salvage the value of the diamonds after the handset has become obsolete.
Posted by Durrr | February 1, 2008 2:30 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:30
Don't lump sum all rich people into one box. There are many rich people you've never heard of who do selfless things with their wealth. There even some you have heard of.
Is this waste? Sure. But who am I to complain? I live in a house where all my kids have their own rooms. I have four laptops, one of which barely gets used. Ask any of the billions of people living in "thrird world" countries if I am rich. To them I am. To you, I'm just another middleclass American who thinks he could make more money.
I worked for what I have. In America, I can choose what to spend it on. It's not wrong to be rich, but there is some responsibility that goes with it. Percentage wise, is a $94,000 cell phone any different than Joe Average going out and buying a $2,000 Plasma HDTV to go with the Sony Playstation 3? I mean, come on, playing games, watching TV and movies takes away from volunteering in Africa. It's all a matter of perspective.
People respect a person who genuinely cares enough to reach out and lend a helping hand during tough times. It builds good will and respect. I firmly believe that's why the Bible teaches ALL, regardless of how much they make, to give back 10%. It's just good practical sense economically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
Posted by Tim | February 1, 2008 2:31 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 14:31
Wow, this is probably one of the most useless things. It's even more pointless than super overpriced boutique computers: why the heck would anyone want diamond on one's cell phone?
Posted by Wei | February 1, 2008 4:32 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 16:32
you know this is the most worthless waste of money i ever seen. i rather buy my self the most pimped out computer system for $4000. then to spend $94000 on a worthless telephone for that money i rather buy a half house dude.
i wish i had $94000then i would spend it on somthing to generate me a passive income so i could live from that.
Posted by wasteofmoney | February 1, 2008 4:38 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 16:38
If i were to spend 100k$ on a phone i would at least expect it to have a micro cutting laser, radio wave triangulation, world satellite communications, and fit inside my ear canal.
Posted by kyle | February 1, 2008 4:51 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 16:51
Its funny, putting something that lasts forever (diamonds) on something that is inherently finite (electronics). What happens when the circuts fry for good, you chip the diamonds off and make a necklace?
Posted by HaaaHaa | February 1, 2008 5:05 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 17:05
Ok, it seems that most everyone here has a fundamental misunderstanding of how a free market economy works. Both communism (aka socialism) and free markets are systems for redistributing wealth and resources. Where do you think that $94,000 goes once the spoiled rich person buys the phone? For some reason you seem to be laboring under the false impression that it disappears from the economy and is now a lost resource. In fact, in a free market economy, one of the best ways to get money out of the hands of the truly wealthy into the hands of average working classes is to provide ridiculously expensive luxury items like this one.
Let's do a very simplified circulation model of what happens to that $94,000 once "rich daddy" buys the phone for "spoiled daughter": daddy writes the check (he's that rich) and hands it to the cashier at Tiffany's. Markup on diamonds is insane so they probably make close to 1000% profit on the phone minus licensing fees to the company that makes the actual hardware. A large percentage of that profit goes to pay for overhead (rent for the building, power, wages, replacement inventory, and other operating costs). The next largest percentage will be reinvested into growth (new stores, more employees, new products). Finally a very small percentage (usually less than 5) will go to pay executives. So let's add that up of the $94,000 spent on that phone, all but about 5% will end up in the hands of middle class employees through various circulation paths. But here is the best part, once it is in the hands of the middle class it doesn't stop circulating. Studies show that the average middle class citizen in the US has as much as $2500 in debt, and less than $1000 in savings, which means most of us aren't saving the money we earn. Still, even if we were saving it, as long as the money is in a bank it will be loaned to someone else. That's how banks are able to pay you interest on the money you keep in a savings account, and why they charge you interest on money that you borrow. weather we give it away, spend it, or save it, it all goes to help someone else. The chances are very good that at least some of that money will end up in the hands of someone who WILL spend it intentionally to help "the starving children."
Experience has shown time and time again that capitalism is in fact the most effective way to distribute resources. Capitalist societies have far fewer poor, and their standard of living increases at a much faster rate than any other form of economy. Many countries have had some success with mixed economies (economies that incorporate elements of both capitalism and socialism) such as Britain and Germany, but countries that lean too far toward socialism invariably begin to struggle economically, e.g. France who was once one of the strongest economies in Europe, but in recent years has been struggling as their laws penalizing the wealthy have lead to a growing exodus of many of France's best business minds and entrepreneurs. Or communist Russia, who's experiments in communism were a complete failure with regards to how well the citizenry lived. Communist China is another excellent example. Most of China's population suffered in abject poverty until they began incorporating principles of a free market system into their economy. The more they move toward a free market, the faster China's economy grows, and the better it's people live.
To those getting offended by this offering from Tiffany's, that is you prerogative. You do not however, have any moral basis to criticize those who are not similarly offended. Those of us who believe in the free market system realize that being wealthy is not immoral. Wealth is the natural reward for infusing innovation and entrepreneurial activity into the economy; it's the motivation to work harder, innovate, take risks, all of which stimulate more economic growth. So before you become irrationally angry at those more wealthy than you, or the way they choose to spend their money; consider that for the most part, they have acquired their wealth by contributing more to the growth of the economy than you have; and since capitalism currently provides for the populous better than any other system in current use, that means that the same activities that lead to a given person acquiring more wealth than you also lead to them doing more for the less fortunate than you. Capitalist countries are the only ones currently producing enough surplus food to feed the people in countries that can't feed their own, so not only does capitalism provide well for it's own, it also, by nature of the natural efficiency of capitalism, provides for those abroad as well. Just remember, not only does the acquisition of wealth necessary to afford a luxury item like this phone benefit everyone in the capitalist system and elsewhere, but the very act of purchasing it does as well. Doesn't seem quite so irresponsible now, does it?
Posted by rhuarch | February 1, 2008 5:23 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 17:23
Sounds like most of the dregs here need to go beg on the corner for some more weed money and slip into their little, foggy-headed Eurotrash visions of a perfect world without America.
You remember, don't you Europe? That wonderful world with Nazi's stomp...no no, I mean, the perfect world with little brown children woshipping at your white, Eurotrash feet, bringing you pina coladas that you sip while wishing you had more third world money to burn on your fire and some more of that sweet, sweet weed... no no, I mean, wouldnt it be great if the hard-working people of America were your slaves, kinda like now except all they do is grow weed for their perfect superman masters? Yeah, just keep throwing all YOUR hard earned money on killing your brain cells... Oh wait, 90% of Europeans DONT WORK. You just rely on the rest of the world to make money for you and tax them, then live off it like the bloodsucking parasites you are.
Posted by Frenchy McLovenotwar | February 1, 2008 5:50 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 17:50
As long a it's crusted with >80% conflict diamonds I'm in.
Posted by Paper Weight | February 1, 2008 7:07 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 19:07
Well it is not like they throw away the diamonds once the phone is outdated. Since the phone itself doesn't cost much all you have to do is have the diamonds reset on a new phone. Tiffany's may even offer such a program with the phone.
I wonder if they offer a Cubic Zirconia model to go with it for when you walk through those high crime rate areas?
Posted by Tom T | February 1, 2008 7:21 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 19:21
It seems as we have a number of fairly intelligent people posting here, although some posts were plainly flawed. Firstly I'd like to respond to "Daveo" I do not hate America (although 70+ of the world does) Though i am not from there. But what i do not agree on is a number of ideals, to praise the stupid, ignorant or wealthy is one of them, also you talk about free speech yet one i expressed my own true opinion you tarnished me for it. Now you are the one looking like the communist, suppressing others thoughts and beliefs.
Secondly I'd like to respond to "Tim" You are very true as some wealthy do try and help others yet some help the unfortunate as nothing more than a publicity stunt (on one side it does help them and the rich give more money than they would as they are in the spotlight but on the other aren't they really just trying to help themselves?)and another person here thats on the money is "rhuarch" but about your last paragraph, people that are innovative/creative/ simply stumble upon ideas should be rewarded for it but taking a look at one such Paris Hilton and many others you have to ask yourself how is it that they deserve their wealth? What have they contributed to society besides a false idol for stupid teens? (most teens aren't like this though) Even if they are helping the capitalist way by going going out and purchasing things such as this most of the profits stay with the company and as the old classic saying goes: "The rich get richer , and the poor get poorer". As a closing i would like to note thatn i am from an upper middle class family, and although i have given to charity before and the odd bum on the street, this is not a regular doing.
We have opened a topic much wider than a companies decision to make a phone.
Posted by J.D. | February 1, 2008 10:58 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 22:58
I have 3 of these, one of each color.
Posted by ME Not You | February 1, 2008 11:27 PM
Posted on February 1, 2008 23:27
Do you have to sign a two year contract to get it????
Posted by Anonymous | February 2, 2008 1:15 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 01:15
wow a phone sparks a discussion on socio-political economics with references to the bible and a healthy dose of 'my country is better than yours'.
impressive phone...
Posted by guest | February 2, 2008 1:33 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 01:33
Paris Hilton will be on this one like white on rice..... what a useless thing to produce no to mention what a waste of diamonds...
Posted by anonymous | February 2, 2008 3:13 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 03:13
Paris Hilton will be on this one like white on rice..... what a useless thing to produce no to mention what a waste of diamonds...
Posted by anonymous | February 2, 2008 3:14 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 03:14
If you can afford it and you want to buy it, go for it. I would gladly spend the money on something different. Not the homeless. Not the poor. It is my money. I will spend it on what I want to. Perhaps the people that could "use" the money more should have thought about it more when they were pulling in d's and f's in high school while they were skipping class and not doing their homework. Just maybe, if we placed responsibility on the shoulders of each individual, then more people would be ready to face the real world, wouldn't rely on handouts as much, and could afford a 94K cell phone. I personally think it is gaudy. But if I could buy it, I would, and be proud of what I wasted my money on. Thankfully, that 94K would filter down to those in need through the luxury taxes and such, which would go to fund social disasters such as welfare. Keep making the phones!!!!! I can't wait for the platinum and diamond can opener. I wonder if it would be electric...... I am not stuck in the cold war. We won it.
Posted by Daveo | February 2, 2008 6:18 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 06:18
Do no insult peoples' 'taste' calling this ugly or w/e. That is hurtful to those people who do actually like that phone and your comments are not appreciated. Don't make posts assuming the only people who can afford this phone are 'rich daddy girls'. That shows how ignorant you really are. Don't make comments because you cannot afford it.
Posted by Jason | February 2, 2008 10:04 AM
Posted on February 2, 2008 10:04
You people are stupid. You act like it'll be worth nothing in 1 year. It's probably $75,000 worth of diamonds, a $100 cell phone and $18,900 in profit. In a year it'll still be worth $75,000+ because diamonds never really lose value.
Also, the company that sells it will distibute that money as earnings or spend it on something else that goes into the economy. Is money ever really 'wasted' or does it just change hands a lot?
But, I totally agree, this is a ridiculous, ostentatious, egregious POS.
Posted by Cheap Car Lover | February 2, 2008 1:51 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 13:51
@rhuarch:
It's impressive how axiomatically label economical systems as a successes or failures, and it is more impressive that you dare so when you idiotically confuse socialism with social-democracy or you cannot figure the difference of socialism and communism. I'm not going to explain it to you. Go study. At least read Wikipedia.
Ah, the best gem: "capitalist societies have far fewer poor". I'd like to know the source of this information. My guess: Are you told so by your teacher? And how can someone be poor with its full sense, when education, health, etc are provided for free in a socialist state, and accommodation and work is provided by the state to ALL people?
Tell me that socialist states did not catch up with capitalist states on the possession of high technology commercial goods and I'll agree. Tell me that socialist states made mistakes that caused million's peoples lives and I'll agree (see Big Leap Ahead) . But what you do say can be classified as a classic american crap.
You american arrogant, go vote for someone who would prefer to work on your own social problems, who would care about your healthcare and education, and stop spending money on making wars to promote your american definition of freedom.
Posted by galanom | February 2, 2008 2:22 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 14:22
First thing that came to my mind: Paris Hilton
Posted by =D | February 2, 2008 3:11 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 15:11
While I agree that spending $94,000 on a cell phone would be silly, I think that some of the people here need to reconsider just how much money that is.
One of the previous posters claimed it would fund cancer research for a month or more, you might want to check that number. One LA cancer research institute spent about $150,000 a day ($54.8 million in 2006). Factor in the number of places doing cancer research, and I would be suprised if it is enough money to fund a minute of cancer research at each of the institutes nationwide.
I think the bigger problem is that many people are jealous of others who have that much expendible income or savings.
Posted by Jeff | February 2, 2008 3:20 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 15:20
@rhuarch:
"Capitalist societies have far fewer poor, and their standard of living increases at a much faster rate than any other form of economy."
Riiiight....
Is that why you had a disaster in New Orleans caused by private capitalistic enterpreneurs cutting corners while building city's levees to make more profit for themselves?
Oh you mean they made profit and then they shared it with those affected with a flooding?
But wait, that is capitalism, how come you have poor people in New Orleans at all?
Living standard? How come so many people are becoming homeless in USA because they can't pay their mortgages and credit card debts?
"Wealth is the natural reward for infusing innovation and entrepreneurial activity into the economy"
Yeah right, and the best US invention so far is that of Intelectual property.
Too bad that it is not perpetum mobile source of money as you envisioned it. Fortunately, people realized that paying several times for the same (immaterial) thing doesn't make any sense.
You seriously need to wake up and smell the air of your rotten economy. USA is a superpower in only one thing today -- stupidity.
@Frenchy McLovenotwar:
You joined WW2 late and needlessly nuked two Japanese cities causing massive suffering for years to come.
You killed native Americans taking their lands, put what's left of them in reservations and called it a Thanksgiving day.
You were a spice in every possible war conflict so far -- none of your meddling had any positive outcome.
All of your scientists are imported either from Europe, Russia, China or Japan. Same goes for celebrities, only different countries this time around -- Europe, Latin America, Africa.
All of your goods are imported, all of your work is outsorced, you don't produce anything except trashy intellectual property.
Looks like you couldn't do without us, but the world could clearly do without you.
Posted by Igor | February 2, 2008 6:58 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 18:58
Well I guess something for everyone.. I'm more curious on what happens when the phone doesn't work and it has to go to the local repairer and some kid being paid low wages starts slapping the phone around thinking that it is just costume jewelry and not real. I hope that everyone has counted the diamonds..
Good luck with that!!!
Posted by shadow | February 2, 2008 8:19 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 20:19
Making people feel guilty about spending $94000 on a cell phone does not equate to communisim. Otherwise the speech that goes "its not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" is a completly communist statement.
Making people think twice about their purchases is part of free speech wether those purchases be fur coats or diamond cell phones.
I think its all bout sense of scale. If someone is filthy rich and donates $1,000,000 to charity every year and wants a $100,000 cell phone, good on them. On the other hand, if someone likes to abuse homeless people as they walk pass them and spends all their money on gadgets such as $100,000 cell phones then I feel its our duty to make them feel guilty.
I wonder if they have a recycling schemes for these phones? It may make recylcing worth while...
Posted by Lyall | February 2, 2008 8:36 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 20:36
Well, it's fairly easy to see from the inane/uninformed/stupid comments that none of you live in Japan.
This isn't really supposed a useful item, it's a statement. Much like Formula One Racing cars and their ilk. Super over-priced luxurious stuff like Restir in Tokyo Midtown.
The average pop celebrity like Ayu/Otsuki Ai/etc could buy this out of petty cash. (They wouldn't even need to ask the price, softbank would probably give it to them in exchange for endorsing their product.) Top models/actresses would make this much in one advert.
Selfish, greedy? It's _their_ money to waste as they please, you are misguided.
(I don't have a softbank phone, I use AU.)
Posted by Happy Bunny | February 2, 2008 11:46 PM
Posted on February 2, 2008 23:46
well, this got out of hand pretty fast.
Posted by Alex Yarbrough | February 3, 2008 11:40 AM
Posted on February 3, 2008 11:40
Whats next the million dollar Nickel
Posted by Demete | February 3, 2008 1:38 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 13:38
Im in the wrong industry.
Posted by Jason | February 3, 2008 5:08 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 17:08
When I read the title I thought it was going to be about the iPhone after some guy gets his bill after surfing porn 24/7
Posted by Bro | February 3, 2008 7:13 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 19:13
I find it rather amazing that the vast majority of posters whined like little 3rd graders about some imaginary "arrogant rich brat" "getting the diamond cellphone"...
Shows me every single one of those complainers wishes they were that imaginary arrogant brat they hate so much, and probably are, in fact, just like what they "think" of them, minus the diamond encrusted phone.
Seriously, I have never seen such a bunch of spoiled little complainers in all my life - except everywhere else I look nowadays.
I guess "it's hip" to be a whining little puss bucket nowadays.
Yeah, whatever, as if you're doing anyone a favor, when it's all too obvious you bloat out like a sow worse than the "stars" if you ever made yourselves a "diamond dream" come true, and with the attitudes displayed, the best bet is lottery tickets, lots and lots of them.
Good luck.
Posted by SiliconDoc | February 3, 2008 9:20 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 21:20
you know what would be funny. If this was a disposable phone. wouldn't that just piss ya off? I know it would piss me off.
Posted by Andrews | February 3, 2008 10:08 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 22:08
I'd throw that phone at paris hiltons head.
Posted by Jonathan | February 3, 2008 11:07 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 23:07
I'd throw that phone at paris hiltons head.
Posted by Jonathan | February 3, 2008 11:07 PM
Posted on February 3, 2008 23:07
I only got thru a dozen posts before I got tired of the economic/political discussion.
Simple point to be made. How many times has someone dropped their cell phone? How many cell phones get left behind in resteraunts or other public places. While I would happily return a cell phone to it's rightfull owner, if I found a diamond studded phone like that I would definately have to think about it.
The other point of view I've seen that the tech goes out of date is also very valid. What do you do with your diamond studded phone when all your "in crowd" friends suddenly can do more with their phones than you.
And to Paris Hilton, you really don't need this phone.
Posted by TiredTech | February 4, 2008 12:22 AM
Posted on February 4, 2008 00:22
But this IS a disposable phone. It's intended to impress your friends, and after they see it several times you got to move on to something more expensive. Otherwise they'll be just bored...
It's not like anyone would buy it to make calls.
Posted by Catelu | February 4, 2008 1:12 AM
Posted on February 4, 2008 01:12
On the note of what happened in New Orleans....Since someone wanted to bring that up as an example of an example of US failure.
I expect that Igor does not live in the USA, or is otherwise ignorant of US politics (at least in New Orleans). New Orleans is a prime example of what happens when Socialism is allowed to run unchecked. New Orleans was a very socialist model of government who's people expected said government to come to their aid and save them instead of saving themselves. You can't really blame them, they've been spoonfed that sort of thing their whole life. If anything New Orleans is a prime example of why socialism does not work.
Oh, and I'm not taking away your free speech, or trying to tarnish you. I'm just pointing out the flaw in your arguement...which is what tends to happen when people debate ideologies.
Another example of comercialism being better than socialism/communism? (One being just a dumbed down and renamed form of the other) The US just hit 5% unemployment rate. That's up from last year, when it was at 4.something% unemplyment. I just saw a bum on my way home from work drinking a 42 ounce pepsi and eating a bag of $6.00 beef jerky while holding a sign asking for money. He did not look starving.
What's the unemployment rate in European countries? 6 to 8.something% and rising.
Posted by Jesse | February 4, 2008 2:02 AM
Posted on February 4, 2008 02:02
On the note of what happened in New Orleans....Since someone wanted to bring that up as an example of of US failure.
I expect that Igor does not live in the USA, or is otherwise ignorant of US politics (at least in New Orleans). New Orleans is a prime example of what happens when Socialism is allowed to run unchecked. New Orleans was a very socialist model of government who's people expected said government to come to their aid and save them instead of saving themselves. You can't really blame them, they've been spoonfed that sort of thing their whole life. If anything New Orleans is a prime example of why socialism does not work.
Oh, and I'm not taking away your free speech, or trying to tarnish you. I'm just pointing out the flaw in your arguement...which is what tends to happen when people debate ideologies.
Another example of comercialism being better than socialism/communism? (One being just a dumbed down and renamed form of the other so people would get tricked into thinking they aren't the same sort of thing) The US just hit 5% unemployment rate. That's up from last year, when it was at 4.something% unemplyment. I just saw a bum on my way home from work drinking a 42 ounce pepsi and eating a bag of $6.00 beef jerky while holding a sign asking for money. He did not look starving.
What's the unemployment rate in European countries? 6 to 8.something% and rising.
Posted by Jesse | February 4, 2008 2:06 AM
Posted on February 4, 2008 02:06
It's not that hard to buy if you have 1 Trillion dollar ( 1,000,000,000,000 ) !!!
Posted by Dudit | February 4, 2008 9:45 AM
Posted on February 4, 2008 09:45
@Igor
1. “Is that why you had a disaster in New Orleans caused by private capitalistic enterpreneurs cutting corners while building city's levees to make more profit for themselves? Oh you mean they made profit and then they shared it with those affected with a flooding? But wait, that is capitalism, how come you have poor people in New Orleans at all?”
This argument is a logical fallacy known as Misleading Vividness. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because the mere fact that an event is particularly vivid or dramatic does not make the event more likely to occur, especially in the face of significant statistical evidence. What’s more, simply stating that there are indeed poor people in the U.S. does not refute my claim that there are far fewer poor people in capitalist societies than typically found in other forms of economic systems.
2. “Living standard? How come so many people are becoming homeless in USA because they can't pay their mortgages and credit card debts?”
Here you are setting up a false premise. First of all by far the majority of people who can’t afford their mortgages and credit card debt do not become homeless. In fact that is very rare. Second of all, you have made an unfounded assertion of scale. While it is true at the moment that a higher percentage of people are in some financial trouble related to their mortgages than normal, this still only applies to a very small subset of the population. The final problem is one of relevance; the rate of increase in the standard of living has to be calculated based on a large time horizon. All markets rise and dip over time; the important thing is that despite individual dips in the economy, the standard of living in America has always trended up, and still does. Using one small dip in the economy as an argument against my claim that the standard of living increases at a greater rate in capitalist societies than in other economic models is just another fallacy of misleading vividness.
3. “Yeah right, and the best US invention so far is that of Intellectual property. Too bad that it is not perpetum mobile source of money as you envisioned it. Fortunately, people realized that paying several times for the same (immaterial) thing doesn't make any sense.”
This is a fallacy known as Red Herring. A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim. Besides being off topic this “argument” just doesn’t make any sense.
4. “You seriously need to wake up and smell the air of your rotten economy. USA is a superpower in only one thing today -- stupidity.”
This isn’t an argument at all. Now you’ve resorted to simply spewing verbal bile; perhaps if you would reason with your brain instead of your gall bladder, you might be a little more coherent. Judging by the weakness in your arguments and the desperate hatred apparent in your concluding “claim”, I would say that America definitely doesn’t have a monopoly on stupidity. In fact you seem to have pretty well cornered that market all by yourself.
Posted by Anonymous | February 4, 2008 2:11 PM
Posted on February 4, 2008 14:11
@Jesse:
``New Orleans is a prime example of what happens when Socialism is allowed to run unchecked''
I have heard for golden plated TOS